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		<description><![CDATA[Due to lots of pointless spam registration, I&#8217;ve closed new membership on this site for now.  I&#8217;ll sort out something better in the near future.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to lots of pointless spam registration, I&#8217;ve closed new membership on this site for now.  I&#8217;ll sort out something better in the near future.</p>


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		<title>NHS patient safety concerns gather momentum.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just last month, the National Patient Safety Agency (NPSA) published 6 monthly safety incident reporting figures for NHS Trusts for April to September 2008.  You can find the report for your trust here.
In these reports, the ‘flagship’ Mid Staffordshire Foundation Trust, which everybody in the NHS clinical governance system has been trying so hard [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just last month, the National Patient Safety Agency (NPSA) published 6 monthly safety incident reporting figures for NHS Trusts for April to September 2008.  You can find the report for your trust <a href="http://www.npsa.nhs.uk/nrls/patient-safety-incident-data/organisation-reports/organisation-patient-safety-incident-reports/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>In these reports, the ‘flagship’ Mid Staffordshire Foundation Trust, which everybody in the NHS clinical governance system has been trying so hard to distance themselves from today (<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/17/mid-staffordshire-nhs-trust" target="_blank">details here</a>), came out as a fairly normal, average reporting institution.  The implication is that the Mid Staffordshire Foundation Trust, this apparently appallingly managed, target-driven travesty of healthcare, had an approach to patient safety that was about average.  So were they lying in their incident reporting?  The answer is probably no more than any other Trust, given that the Healthcare Commission rated the trust service quality as &#8220;fair&#8221; in 2007 and &#8220;good&#8221; in 2008.  Similarly, when poor care was being delivered through the Trust, Monitor&#8217;s annual checks found &#8220;no regulatory concerns&#8221; (see <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/18/health-nhs">Guardian report here</a>), and gave the hospital four out of five for performance.  Trusts are all target-driven and <a href="http://www.oddflower.org/sands/?p=59" target="_blank">all significantly under-reporting</a> in terms of safety.</p>
<p>There are a great many Trusts that are performing a lot worse in these reports.  Some of them <a href="http://www.monitor-nhsft.gov.uk/home/becoming-nhs-foundation-trust/current-applicants" target="_blank"> are also due</a> to be made Foundation Trusts in the very near future.  In the case of our local hospital in the south west for example, which is one of the most poorly performing ones in the NPSA reports (and where our baby died recently due to ‘sub-optimal care’), Foundation Trust status is due to be granted on 1st April.  April Fools Day.  One of the criteria for becoming a Foundation Trust is supposed to be demonstrating that the quality of care is a top priority.  I hardly need tell you what I think about this.  Maybe, if we were all to become &#8216;members&#8217; of Foundation Trusts then we could do something, but the signs from the Mid Staffordshire Foundation Trust suggest that we probably couldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The events at Mid Staffordshire may well reflect much deeper, more endemic problems in healthcare and leave confidence in NHS patient safety, and particularly the regulation of it, in absolute tatters.</p>


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		<title>Incident-triggered random clinical audits.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very interesting paper by Lee et al regarding the trial of a simple risk management process in Bristol&#8217;s Southmead NICU was published in August 2008 (Archives of Disease in Childhood - Fetal and Neonatal Edition 2009;94:F116-F119).
To quote the deputy editor&#8217;s comments;
&#8220;Over recent years, we have carried a number of papers examining rates of adverse [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting paper by Lee et al regarding the trial of a simple risk management process in Bristol&#8217;s Southmead NICU was published in August 2008 (<a href="http://fn.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/94/2/F116">Archives of Disease in Childhood - Fetal and Neonatal Edition 2009;94:F116-F119</a>).</p>
<p>To quote the deputy editor&#8217;s comments;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Over recent years, we have carried a number of papers examining rates of adverse events in babies receiving intensive care. These have contained salutary reminders of the possible harms that can happen, and their frequency, but they have been less helpful in terms of generating and testing practical measures by which errors might be reduced. We would all sign up to the laudable aims of better education, tight and simple systems, and close monitoring of errors and learning from them when they occur, but even these do not reduce rates of error as far as we would all wish. So it is particularly valuable to have the paper by Lee et al bearing a very positive message by reporting the application of structured random safety audits (a system widely used in industry) to the NICU setting. In short: it demonstrably works, and other units should give serious consideration to emulating this system.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The simple process works like this.  Each week there is a &#8216;grand tour&#8217; of consultants etc through the NICU reviewing cases and talking with staff.  Each week the tour picks 2 well-prepared checklists concerning error-prone activities at random from a box.  The checklists are completed by direct individual discussion and direct two way feedback with staff as part of the round.  Results in terms of % compliance are posted, problematic protocols and staff suggestions are quickly identified.  By the second time a given checklist was used, significant improvements were clear.  Over time, general ongoing improvements can be demonstrated to everyone involved.  According to the authors, provided it is done positively, the staff were very supportive because the feedback was very rapid.</p>
<p>Simple systems like this could be made even more effective if they were linked directly to incident reporting.  If every serious incident generated new checklists as a matter of course (i.e. the error-prone activities were automatically identified), then one of the fundamental barriers to good clinical governance (the pessimistic attitude of staff to reporting incidents due to a lack of resulting actions) would be removed, direct local learning feedbacks could accelerate, staff could take some initiative in areas that concern them and safety would rapidly improve in the areas that need it most.</p>


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		<title>The Scale of the Stillbirth and Neonatal Death Problem in the UK.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The number of stillbirths and neonatal deaths every year in the UK is more than twice the number of deaths on UK roads.  While road safety attracts a huge amount of attention, resources and legislation, perinatal mortality still tends to be regarded as an unhappy fact of life about which little can be done.
But [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of stillbirths and neonatal deaths every year in the UK is more than twice the number of deaths on UK roads.  While road safety attracts a huge amount of attention, resources and legislation, perinatal mortality still tends to be regarded as an unhappy fact of life about which little can be done.</p>
<p>But this is not true.  Room for improvement is massive.  If every health authority was able to perform like the best ones in the country do right now, UK perinatal mortality would be about two thirds of what it currently is.  In other words, something like 30% of UK perinatal death is unnecessary.  This might sound a bit wishful thinking, but a 30% reduction in perinatal death would only bring the UK into the same bracket as other, even marginally, well off European countries like Portugal and Greece.  So, we are not talking about having to learn a lot of new things here, the knowledge of how to do it is already available in the UK, as the perinatal mortality rates of the better authorities clearly demonstrate.</p>
<p>And correcting the numbers for general health and relative deprivation (e.g. hospitals in relatively poor areas serve a population with more social health problems, and that increases mortality rates etc.) does little to change the picture.  Of the 30% excess perinatal mortality seen in the UK, at least two thirds of it results directly from differences in medical and health care.  This means that at least 20% of stillbirth and neonatal death is preventable by improving medical and health care in relatively failing areas, without having to do really difficult things like alleviate poverty in mothers.  If there were access to the better care and better knowledge that is already available elsewhere in the UK, between 3 and 4 baby deaths would be saved every single day.</p>
<p>In an effort to reduce unnecessary deaths, the NHS runs something called &#8220;Clinical Governance&#8221;.  The point of this process is to rigorously learn lessons from so called &#8220;sub-optimal care&#8221;.  Theoretically, it puts structures and processes in place that help the NHS figure out and disseminate life-saving lessons.  Because 20% of perinatal deaths are currently preventable by providing adequate care, and there are many Guidelines that describe what adequate care actually is, you might expect that NHS Clinical Governance would be awash with investigations into the perinatal deaths that do occur.</p>
<p>Unfortunately not.  The data suggests that currently only about 1 in 8 of the 20% excess, preventable, sub-optimal baby deaths are investigated at all.  So, 7 out of every 8 preventable baby deaths are going uninvestigated and unlearned from.  Given the NPSA&#8217;s estimate of 95% of unreported preventable death generally in the UK, a large proportion of these unlearned from deaths are probably not being reported as preventable anywhere in the system.  In CEMACH (Confidential Enquiry into Maternal And Child Health) reports, for example, the lion&#8217;s share of causes of stillbirth and neonatal death is still &#8220;unexplained&#8221; and the implication is that this is because most cases, even the more serious ones, are not investigated.  This leaves the NHS, and organisations like CEMACH, SANDS and BLISS, having to guess at the scale of, the reasons for and the solutions to this by definition solvable problem.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, according to surveys like the King&#8217;s Fund Enquiry, NHS staff themselves complain that they fill in endless incident forms and do not see any actions or changes as a result.  They complain that they see the same incidents occurring over and over again, and that the only hope of breaking the cycle is complaints, litigation or where there is some kind of scandal that hits the papers.</p>
<p>So, it is not only medical and health care that are failing to save babies in the UK.  It would seem that Clinical Governance, at least for perinatal death at the moment, is also failing, even where the lessons have already been learned by some.</p>


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		<title>Our little man - George</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our little man, George was born at 29 +6 weeks on News Years Day 2008. Up until that day the preganancy had been pretty uneventful (problem wise that is) but going into sudden labour was about to change all of that. New Years Eve 2007 was the first for a long time that i had [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our little man, George was born at 29 +6 weeks on News Years Day 2008. Up until that day the preganancy had been pretty uneventful (problem wise that is) but going into sudden labour was about to change all of that. New Years Eve 2007 was the first for a long time that i had actually enjoyed and was looking forward to 2008 and one (also for many years) that was celebrated alcohol free!! So i was a little put out on NYD to wake up feeling like i had drunk several bottles dry. I didn&#8217;t have any reason during most of that day to think that it was due to anything otherthan having a later night than i could handle. By about 6.30pm that night i was experiencing back ache and had the &#8216;warm bath&#8217; in an attempt to ease it however as i lay there i started to realise that the &#8216;backache&#8217; wasn&#8217;t easing but was infact being more intense. I got out of the bath and started starring at the clock, then realised that it was about every 3 minutes or so that the &#8216;back ache&#8217; was more intense. Sudden panic crept in along with the tears and the &#8216;omg&#8217; thoughts &#8216;he can&#8217;t be coming yet, we&#8217;re not ready for him&#8217;. We reached the hospital about 7.45pm and waited about 10 mins for a midwife to appear. Her attitude was one of &#8216;its probably only a practice run&#8217; an attitude that continued for the next hour until she finally realised that may be George was in fact on his way. Most of the first hour spent in the delivery room was spent trying to convince the midwife that i was in labour but she didn&#8217;t really seem that concerned. She gave my husband the doppler to listen for George&#8217;s heartbeat and said pointing to an area of my tummy &#8216;it should be somewhere around there&#8217;. She never examined me otherthan a quick feel of my tummy nor did she explain the reason for this. Apparently where premature babies are concerned midwives leave well alone and a doctor has to examine. But where was the doctor?? The midwife didn&#8217;t call him straight away and by the time she did and he finally arrived we had been at the hospital for just over an hour. By the time he &#8216;had a look&#8217; he decided that George was on his way and rather fast so he called for another more senior doc. After he had examined me he stated that George was in a breech position but he was too far down the birth canal to pull him back to perform a c section so he would have to deliver as he was presenting.  Although George was still in his sac at first (which was protecting him to some extent) as things progressed the sac burst (all over the senior doc) and George was no longer &#8216;cushioned&#8217; to continue his journey. By the time George entered the world at 9.46pm there was an audience of about 12 people and he was quickly whisked away&#8230;.no cuddles, no kisses no nothing. We had a quick peek as he was being wheeled out of the room in an incubator. It was 5 hours later before we saw George again and by that time he was attached to all sorts and on a ventillator. Although he looked small and was aided with breathing, never once did we think we would never get to take him home. I wasn&#8217;t the first person to change his nappy and we didn&#8217;t get to old him until day 3. He never cried. His little body was black from bruising from the waist down. For the first 2 days he seemed to be doing ok considering but we were informed of the risk to brain damage due to the bruising but we didn&#8217;t want to think about it. However the day soon arrived when we were told George had had a bleed to the brain and was now brain damaged. No one knew for definate how bad at first it was but we were informed that if it happened again it could be fatal. It did happen again and it was fatal. Any slight choice that we may have been presented with initally had now been taken away from us, we were told that George was so badly brain damaged that even if he ever did leave hospital (which was highly unlikely) he would be unable to do anything and would be blind and deaf.  So our little man who was perfectly fine until he was born was now slipping away in front of us. Day by day brain cells were dying off and finally George was taken off the ventillator and allowed a dignified death. We were fortunate to have some quality time with our little man, we bathed him, dressed him sand to im, held him close and finally George became an angel while lying in between his mummy and daddy. George had every chance of survival if born head first, he was nearly 30 weeks, weighed 3lb, 6oz and had nothing major detected wrong with him during routine scans. Since then we have tried to address some concerns that we have with treatment prior to George&#8217;s birth with the hospital but they are just not interested. We feel that the delay in being seen by a doctor resulted in George being born breech, which then resulted in his death. The hospital have admitted that there is a 50/50 change of a premature baby being born in a breech position and in the case of premature babies, midwife intervention is limited. so if they know all this, why isn&#8217;t a doctor called immediately??? We won&#8217;t give up our quest to find the answers to our questions and we wont hospital proceedures when dealing with premature babies looked at. Currently response time is too slow and unacceptable. Amanda and Hugh - George&#8217;s very proud mummy and daddy.</p>


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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This extended quotation is from a discussion about patient safety by Dr Michael J Powers QC.  It explains some of the legal background to the right to a thorough investigation into the circumstances surrounding a negligent death.
&#8220;When a death suspected to have resulted from poor medical practice/care occurs, the coroner’s inquest is very often [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This extended quotation is from <a href="http://www.medneg.co.uk/patient_safety.htm">a discussion about patient safety</a> by Dr Michael J Powers QC.  It explains some of the legal background to the right to a thorough investigation into the circumstances surrounding a negligent death.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;When a death suspected to have resulted from poor medical practice/care occurs, the coroner’s inquest is very often the only opportunity for the factual circumstances to be investigated. There are no national figures but anecdotal evidence suggests between 7,000 and 13,000 of the 25,000 inquests each year relate to deaths in hospitals.  Thousands of deaths caused through incompetent care are never investigated at all particularly those from amongst the most disadvantaged in our society. Of those deaths which are investigated, the quality of the investigation is variable.  Coroners are under financial pressures from their local authorities and complain that they simply do not have the resources properly to carry out such investigations.  The present system is totally unsatisfactory.  The anticipated “urgent official attention” to the problem has only just resulted in a government statement from Harriet Harman QC.  A Bill is expected at the end of the year.   </p>
<p>Since 1995 coroners have relied upon the decision of the Court of Appeal in Jamieson, to limit the scope of investigation of how the death occurred, interpreting “how” as “by what means” rather than “in what broad circumstances”.  The pressure for proper investigations into hospital deaths has increased since the Human Rights Act 1998 came into force and the new legislation will have to be compatible with it. </p>
<p>Under the terms of Article 2 of the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms “Everyone&#8217;s right to life shall be protected by law…”.  It has been argued in a number of coroners’ cases that in respect of unnatural deaths in NHS hospitals the state has an investigative duty under Article 2 - what has come to be known as “Article 2 being engaged”. In Goodson, where a man died from peritonitis from an iatrogenic double bowel perforation, Richards J (as he then was) recognised that the language of the Strasbourg cases is sometimes confusing, eliding the positive and procedural obligations under the Article.  The Court of Appeal have recently clarified the position in Takoushis where a schizophrenic at high risk of self harm left a hospital without being seen within 10 minutes required by the system and committed suicide. Article 2 being engaged means that the state itself has an obligation to investigate the death which, since Middleton, is usually done through the medium of the coroner’s inquest.  A medical death where there is evidence to support a charge of gross negligence manslaughter falls within this category. </p>
<p>However, the majority of medical deaths are caused by simple negligence.  In these cases Article 2 is not engaged in the sense of the definition, but under Article 2 the state still has a positive obligation to set up an effective judicial system.  This includes the effective and practical investigation into medical deaths. Importantly, civil proceedings cannot be assumed to be sufficient: the claim may only be for a comparatively small sum such that it would not make practical or economic sense for civil proceedings to be begun; a family may not be able to obtain legal aid; liability may be admitted.  In each case an independent investigation of the facts as part of the civil process is rendered impossible.</p>
<p>The inquest thus fulfils a vital role in discharging the state’s obligation under Article 2 even into medical deaths where Article 2 is not “engaged”.  The hearing still has to be a full, fair, practical and effective public investigation into the facts in which the family is able to take a full part.  Indeed, the only practical difference between Article 2 being “engaged” and not being “engaged” is that in the former, the investigation has to be initiated by the state per se. Although the Court of Appeal was bound by the decision in Jamieson, looking at the way the Court approached the facts, it is clear that Takoushis extends the interpretation of “how” the deceased came by his death well beyond the Jamieson restriction. The new inquest ordered in Takoushis obliges the coroner to conduct a full and proper investigation of the operation of the system at the hospital which allowed the deceased to leave before being seen by a psychiatrist.  In practice the inquest into “how” a medical death occurred has become, as it should, an investigation into both the means and the circumstances of the death.</p>
<p>The proposed new legislation on coroners must embrace these principles.  Coroners will be full time specialists.  Given sufficient training, proper funding and the independent medical expert assistance they undoubtedly require when investigating medical deaths, the inquest in its developing format could satisfy the need for proper inquiries into medical deaths.  The full participation of the family of the bereaved will probably require public funds to be made available for representation in appropriate cases. Given an appropriate system for recording and reporting such inquiries, essential lessons for future patient safety can be learned.&#8221;</p></blockquote>


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		<title>About Talking to People.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the death of our baby, we spent the next two weeks up at the hospital while his mother began recovering from the difficult birth, and then fighting off an unidentified infection acquired during the caesarean (probably group b strep, as it turns out).  As if things could possibly be worse than loosing a baby, she [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the death of our baby, we spent the next two weeks up at the hospital while his mother began recovering from the difficult birth, and then fighting off an unidentified infection acquired during the caesarean (probably <a href="http://www.oddflower.org/sands/?p=123" title="Group B Strep at our local hospital." target="_blank">group b strep</a>, as it turns out).  As if things could possibly be worse than loosing a baby, she got really sick with it. Scarily sick in the middle in fact, and this meant she did little but sleep, get regular IV medication from the nurses and wait for yet another doctor to be found to change things.</p>
<p>While all this was going on, I sat there reading crappy sci-fi books, or running little errands. Sometimes, someone who had been involved in the birth or our baby&#8217;s care in the NICU would peer nervously through the window in the door and come in for a chat about something. At night, I slept on a plastic covered mattress on the floor next to the bed, my body exhausted but dreaming mad dreams and waking up in cold sweats.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was wandering down a corridor in the hospital one day, in that shell shocked frame of mind, and bumped straight into a couple we&#8217;d met at our antenatal classes.  They&#8217;d left the course before it finished, because the woman was having twins and had gone into labour at about 30 weeks, and we hadn&#8217;t seen them since.  We knew the twins were in the NICU and one of them was pretty touch and go, but that was all.</p>
<p>You learn very quickly about talking to people. In the strangely detached world you&#8217;re living in, you can see the reaction of others when you tell them what&#8217;s happened, as if it was in slow motion. You know that they&#8217;ll need to be told, and you know that they&#8217;ll feel it like you thumped them in the stomach when you do. Even before you open your mouth, they&#8217;ll realize something is wrong and you&#8217;ll be leaning in as if to catch them. It&#8217;s terrible, the look that goes across their faces. It feels almost violent to tell people. A friend who&#8217;d lost a baby perhaps 15 years ago said he felt like he had to introduce himself with, &#8220;Hi, I&#8217;m Tom, and my baby died.&#8221; I didn&#8217;t understand that at the time, but now I do.</p>
<p>The other alarming thing about this situation is the contrast between what other people seem to feel, the extent of their reaction, and what you feel on the inside. It&#8217;s as if they grasp instantly the awful reality of it all, something you yourself are nowhere near being able to understand. It makes you feel like you&#8217;re trapped somewhere very far away from normal. Like post-traumatic stress, I suppose.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s bad news I&#8217;m afraid,&#8221; I said, looking out from behind eyes that didn&#8217;t feel like mine, &#8220;He died a few hours after he was born. We don&#8217;t know why.&#8221;</p>
<p>As they reacted, I said, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry.&#8221; It was like it was their drama, not our&#8217;s. My heart went out to them. Or perhaps, felt like it should, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>This little drama is played out over and over again, and you get used to it.  At first, I found the detachment very disturbing.  My head seemed (and still seems) to be continually trying to paper over this huge hole in our reality with stupid mundane normal things.  This is so unstoppable that I was frightened that I wouldn&#8217;t remember anything really important, like the way our baby&#8217;s lips moved or the shape of his arms, so I would (and still do) fall to sleep replaying the events obsessively, just to keep things alive in there somewhere.  But quickly the detachment starts to become familiar.  In normal life, the reality of things keeps intruding, keeps replacing itself, unfurling even when things are apparently not changing.  In bereavement, something just stops and the clanking, chattering noise from everything else is suddenly deafening.</p>
<p>About a week later, after his mother started getting better, the four of us met up downstairs in the hospital, in a run down little canteen run by volunteer old ladies, for a cup of tea and a chocolate bar together.  We talked almost like normal new parents excitedly about the births, about how we were all feeling now, about how we were absolutely amazed by the gorgeousness of our babies, how incredible that pride was in spite of everything, and how strange that no one had told us about this in our antenatal classes.  The thing I remember best about it was that, even though their twins were alive, they naturally understood some of the things we were saying because they were suffering from a sort of loss too; a sort of life-changing frustration because they couldn&#8217;t just get on with falling in love with their babies.</p>


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		<title>How more might be learned about Stillbirth and Neonatal Death.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the guidance for Serious Untoward Incidents (SUI) from different hospital trusts that I&#8217;ve seen published on the web, a common example of the kind of adverse event that might start the process off is the death of a baby.  Some trusts go as far as suggesting stillbirth - even as far back as [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the guidance for <a href="http://www.oddflower.org/sands/?p=197">Serious Untoward Incidents</a> (SUI) from different hospital trusts that I&#8217;ve seen published on the web, a common example of the kind of adverse event that might start the process off is the death of a baby.  Some trusts go as far as suggesting stillbirth - even as far back as the second trimester of pregnancy in one case I&#8217;ve seen - might also be considered.  This reporting process theoretically leads to an in-depth, rigorous investigation into the events surrounding a baby&#8217;s death (including the good care, as well as the bad), and the process is probably already reasonably familiar to a hospital.  The findings of these investigations are supposed to be reported to the hospital&#8217;s Governance Committee, and once the content is agreed, the Chief Executive releases some kind of a report for some kind of general dissemination.  So, done properly, this process could be a invaluable source of learning in maternity and neonatal care.  What makes it particularly important, is that these deaths represent the extremes of care, when problems and solutions are at their most obvious, and therefore also when learning should work best.</p>
<p>I think <a href="http://www.oddflower.org/sands/?p=223">SANDS &#8220;Why 17?&#8221;</a> could make some important progress by campaigning for <strong>the SUI reporting process to occur whenever a stillbirth or neonatal death occurs</strong>, and by informing parents and health professionals of the existence of this potentially important alternative to just coming up with something to put on the death certificate.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the <a href="http://www.oddflower.org/sands/?p=209">evidence</a> suggests that generally, lesson dissemination is very poor, and <a href="http://www.oddflower.org/sands/?p=181">our own experience</a> of the process is that even the investigations are themselves done poorly.  The reason this is the case is because no one, with the possible exception of the bereaved parents, is really paying any attention to SUI reporting.</p>
<p>The obvious way to make SUI investigations, and the reporting of them, more effective is to <strong>make SUIs either actually or potentially peer reviewed documents</strong>, more like medical research papers.  This would force the staff involved to do a good enough job in their reporting of serious incidents to convince their peers of their findings, as well as help disseminate those findings.  In our case, the staff involved in the investigation of the death of our son is yet to produce a report at all, and this means that we are still having to piece together what happened by asking questions.  This is a pointlessly lengthy process, and makes understanding what happened and learning lessons from it almost impossible, even for other health professionals.  I would imagine that if I was a medical doctor, peer reviewing their investigation reports, there would be a lot more effort going in to explaining things.</p>
<p>Lastly, unlike many other countries, the UK does not have a national network for NICU&#8217;s etc, where the dissemination of reports can easily occur.  This situation means that even where something is learned locally, it has no way to spread except on the back of other slow processes like the medical literature.  This sort of national collaboration is important for other reasons too (for instance, <a href="http://www.oddflower.org/sands/?p=123">the recognition of GBS outbreaks</a>), and is another extremely useful issue for SANDS &#8220;WHY 17?&#8221; to campaign on.  By <strong>making a national network for SUI reports to disseminate within</strong>, peer review would also be encouraged.</p>


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		<title>Interesting Survey as Part of Why 17?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UK Sands (the Stillbirth and Neonatal Death charity) is currently running a campaign called &#8220;Why 17?&#8221;.  The idea is to raise awareness of the average 17 stillbirths and neonatal deaths that occur every day in the UK.  They are calling for 

recognition that stillbirth and neonatal death is a national problem and not [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.uk-sands.org/">UK Sands</a> (the Stillbirth and Neonatal Death charity) is currently running a campaign called <a href="http://www.why17.org/Why-17-Home.html">&#8220;Why 17?&#8221;</a>.  The idea is to raise awareness of the average 17 stillbirths and neonatal deaths that occur every day in the UK.  They are calling for </p>
<ul>
<li>recognition that stillbirth and neonatal death is a national problem and not just one of those things,</li>
<li>a national strategy to reduce the number of stillbirths and neonatal deaths in the UK,</li>
<li>and funding for more research to improve understanding of why stillbirths and neonatal deaths happen, and to identify high risk pregnancies and develop effective interventions.</li>
</ul>
<p>The campaign will be launched on 4th March 2009 at an event at Parliment, when a new report &#8216;Saving Babies&#8217; Lives&#8217; and the results of <strong>a survey of bereaved families&#8217; experiences</strong> will be delivered.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to have your say, then contact Sands via <a href="http://www.why17.org/Get-Involved/Take-part-in-our-survey.html">this page</a>.  They&#8217;ll send you a link to an online survey which covers various areas about the loss of your baby.  It didn&#8217;t quite fit things in our case, but there was plenty of room to add our comments, and it didn&#8217;t take us all night to complete.</p>
<p>The website also suggests contacting your local MP so that they turn up at the event.  Perhaps this is something we could arrange as a group?  Perhaps we haven&#8217;t got enough time?</p>


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		<title>Families Of Critically Ill Patients Want To Discuss Uncertain Prognoses.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Critically ill patients frequently have uncertain prognoses, but their families overwhelmingly wish that physicians would address prognostic uncertainty candidly, according to a new study out of the University of San Francisco Medical Center.
In face-to-face interviews with 179 surrogate decision-makers for patients in four separate intensive care units (ICUs), 87 % of caregivers indicated that they [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Critically ill patients frequently have uncertain prognoses, but their families overwhelmingly wish that physicians would address prognostic uncertainty candidly, according to a new study out of the University of San Francisco Medical Center.</p>
<p>In face-to-face interviews with 179 surrogate decision-makers for patients in four separate intensive care units (ICUs), 87 % of caregivers indicated that they would want to be told of all prognostic estimates, even if the estimates were tentative. Most also indicated that they appreciated a physician&#8217;s candour in discussing uncertain outcomes as honest, rather than seeing it as a source of confusion or anxiety.</p>
<p>According to the study published in the American Thoracic Society (2009, January 5),</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;they needed to begin to prepare for the chance that their loved one might die, and so begin the bereavement process &#8230; and want to have the opportunity to take care of unfinished personal business before their loved one dies. They need that chance to say their goodbyes, in case the patient does die.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Although physicians often wish to shelter their patients and patient families from what might seem to be harsh realities, the human spirit is resilient and sheltering them often leads to unnecessary distress in the long run anyway.</p>


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